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I see the following Atheists answers posted pretty often so can you answer me this?
I see the answer about not trusting Biblical writers because some of them felt that the earth was flat.
1. How do you know that to be true? Please point out the chapter and verse that directly indicates this.
2. They had ships back then and since none of them sailed off the earth, plus they could see even farther into the distance, I somehow doubt they were of such an opinion.
3. Did they have airplanes, telescopes, space satellites, etc. that could get high above the earth to tell them otherwise?
I also see the comment that Biblical writers felt that the earth was the center of things and that the sun rose and set around the earth.
If they were such dumb people please tell me how these dumb people could:
1. Build city walls (the walls surrounding Jerusalem for one) without the use of bulldozers, cranes, electric or gas powered equipment/tools=homemade hand tools only, no cement trucks, and no welding equipment.
2. The pyramids aren’t directly mentioned in the Bible but they were built around this same time period., How did these backward people in such a backward time do this? Oh, maybe you believe space aliens helped them. Yeah, right, happens everyday. When is the last time you witnessed such a thing happening? Did they bring bulldozers and power tools with them? How were they powered? Who drove them? Why is there no record of such?
3. Do you, yourself ever say something like "The sun will come up tomorrow." "The sun rises in the east and sets in the west." Or do you go into something about the solar system, the revolving of things, etc. etc. to get away from making such errant statements about the sun and earth?
Some say that these people were kind of barbarian. Let me ask you:
1. Do you eat meat? So did they. Is most of your meat cut up for you when you buy it from a store? How did it get cut up? Can you say butchered? They were so barbaric that they butchered their own meat. There were no grocery chains. Can you properly butcher your own meat products for use everyday? Visit a slaughter house (where much your meat is killed and butchered) and tell me if it looks barbaric. How did they keep the cut up portions from going bad?
2. Can you successfully plant, nurture, grow, and harvest all of your fruit and vegetables?
3. Can you make wine without a kit? They did all the above and without a college or vocational education.
When the Bible was first written there was no such thing as typewriters, computers, or printers. There was no such thing as actual paper. The Bible was written on parchment and some even on animal skins made into a paper like product. But they did it and the discovery of the Dead Sea scrolls prove it. Could you do such a thing?
Was a publisher going to make them rich for their efforts? Nope. Very few of them died a rich man.
Now, how stupid and unreliable were these people?
Oh, I guess the Sea of Galilee , the Red Sea, the Dead Sea aren’t mentioned in the Bible…..Look again. What occupation were some of the disciples before following Christ? Fishermen.
Oh wow man. Just wow. I know they weren’t all as stupid & unreliable as your sources.
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Well that’s just nifty.
The Israelite s were not a sea fairing people
Your question is too long and full of fail
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You should look up the definition of sea fairing.
Fishing in a lake does not a sea fairing civilization make.
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I just read the whole thing. are u trying to prove a point here?
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they weren’t stupid, but to a large extent our understanding of science and engineering has been a forward progression building on the work that came before.
the discovery of the atom, evolution, electricity, internal combustion, and a lot of astrophysics, medicine, cellular and molecular biology has all come in the last 150 years, long after the bible was written.
the people of 2000 years ago did hold a lot of theories about the world and the human body that would seem either laughable or horrible today. the bible is a product of it’s time. The intellectual development of man is one from ignorance and superstition to one of science and reason. But some ideas like religion will take a long time to die out because they are entangled up with more permanent ideologies of culture and power
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i dont understand the question
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That’s great! Great question.
I don’t see any educated answers on here from any atheists.
They’re just picking their nose and thinking of the next retarded thing to say.
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Architectural/aliment/working skill knowledge = theological and philosophical knowledge?
Good point, my man. I see your point. Because, you know, it’s not like questioning the Bible led to anything. *coughRenaissancecough*
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not only that, but in the book of job, it describes the earth hanging on nothing, describes whether patterns,, currents in the ocean, and that the earth was round, amoung many other things.sorry dont have a bible handy but it says that pretty much in one chapter. also the formula that they had for pi-3.14…was many times more accurate than that in the hebrew language because in hebrew the letters are also numbers, the earliest and probably themost advanced language on the planet, even to this day.
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The Bible consistently uses the Hebrew word chwug (circle) to refer to the Earth. Circles are, of course, flat. Some have suggested that this is because therre was no Heberew word for sphere or ball. This is simply not true, as evidenced in the Bible itself. Isaiah 22:18 clearly states "He will surely violently turn and toss thee like a BALL (duwr) into a large country."
As for the idea that we all consider these ancient peoples "dumb" for believing in a flat Earth, this is simply not the case. They did the best with what little evidence they had. The Egyptians believed that the sun was a flaming ball of feces being pushed around by a dung beetle, but they were by no means stupid. The pre-modern Chinese believed that foxes could turn into people and touching funeral workers would bring a curse on you, yet they invented clockwork and the printing press.
Intelligent people can be wrong on some things while right on others. It’s a fact of life, and stating otherwise seems to me a gross oversimplification and insult to those ancient peoples. To say that because they were right about some things means they were right about all things is similarly a gross and insulting oversimplification.
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First question, I’m not going to waste time going on google but if you feel like it you’ll find these statements in the bible:
1 Four corners of the earth, just like a sheet of paper has 4 corners
2standing on the highest mountain he could see every kingdom, (impossible ona shere but again, possible on a sheet of paper)
3 To the ends of the earth, or something like that.
Secondly,
1 Manual labor
2 Not relevent, just as you said they weren’t part of the bible, but as not to cop out of this I don’t actually know, I’m pretty sure that hasn’t been found out yet. Maybe it it has, but again, not relevant to Christianity.
3 These are simply cultural terms, like saying "bless you" when someone sneezes.
Finally,
1 Read deuteronomy 13:1-16, They were crazed societies, but being crazy and killing and chopping up an animal to help you survive are completely different things.
2 Alone, no, property payments and help needed electricity etc, again, I don’t see how that’s relevant.
3Oral tradition; you do what your family does.
There, these are pretty rational answers, and I figured alot of atheists here don’t address Christians *ahem* … questions…
So I hope I helped I guess.
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No, they had boats back then = not true ships that sailed beyond the coastlines as later ships did.
Someone will provide you with chapter and verse.
Who said they were barbarians? They were certainly primitive by today’s standards but the building of walls, etc, has been shown to date back thousands of years, whether they’re made from mud brick or stone.
The bible is claimed by many to be the inerrant word of "god", even if it was told to and written by men. How can that be true if it’s so full of mistakes?
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The claim of a flat Earth is not directly made in any quote I’m aware of, though many verses certainly imply a flat Earth. Job 38:13 talks about shaking the Earth by its ends. Matthew 4:8 has Jesus atop a tall mountain that allows him to see the whole Earth.
Regardless of whether or not the Bible actually makes those claims, it is a claim that was held by a majority of Christians at one point, and is still held by some today.
As for "they didn’t have planes", you’re absolutely right. They do claim to have a divinely inspired book, though. I’m pretty sure a god would know the shape of the Earth.
Anyway, building big structures. A lot of that was done with great difficulty, and many deaths. The fact that such structures were built is ultimately irrelevant. What is it supposed to prove, that slave labour is effective? That at great costs, amazing things can be accomplished?
You go on to talk about how ancient people could butcher meat, farm, and make wine. That’s all very nice. This doesn’t prevent those people from believing in things that are outright wrong.
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And just throwing this out there, but the Dead Sea Scrolls are entirely Old Testament.
First of all, what year was the Bible written? The oldest bit dates from about 1400 BC, right? It wasn’t until 1,500 AD that the idea of a spherical Earth became even remotely popular. It would be ridiculous to think that the Biblical writers thought anything other than that the Earth was no spherical (to be fair, the Ancient Greeks thought the Earth was not flat but sort of a weird circular shape). Of course, their ships were unable to sail around the world. They were able at most to cross the Mediterranean Sea, and sail up and down the coast.
Also, the first pyramids were built in about 2700 BC. That’s a 1300 year difference so not exactly around the same time. The pyramids were built quite simply. The common hype is that it was a very difficult task. However, each and every aspect of building the pyramid has been demonstrated today. For example, to move the stone, a man demonstrated how this could be done using a lever system, thus enabling him to move his entire barn across his field by himself. It was leveled by filling a trench surrounding the area with water. Stones were carved with a pendulum like device. Etc. It wasn’t a big deal.
City walls are even easier. In 2600 BC, the Indus Valley Civilization was producing standardized bricks across an area of 1 million square kilometers. Each and every brick in their walls were exactly the same as the one before.
We do make erroneous statements about the Solar System. However, these are things we have been taught by those who didn’t know better. Of course, we know better, but colloquial English is an odd thing anyways.
I do eat meat, but I don’t get it from a store. I shoot it, clean it, butcher it, etc.
I do successfully plant, and harvest all of my vegetables.
I don’t drink alcohol, why would I bother making wine. However, my Dad used to. It was quite easy.
Most of these points are rather moot though. I get that you are trying to show that they were not stupid, but it really makes no difference.
Summary:
A) They did think the world was flat. I don’t blame them for that, it probably seemed quite logical. They couldn’t sail far enough to determine whether they were right or not.
B) They were not dumb, they were arrogant. When faced with something such as the cosmos, should your first impulse be to proclaim that you are at the center of it? No.
C) Finding ways to feed yourself has nothing to do with Barbarianism. Stoning children to death has something to do with Barbarianism.
Now, did you notice a trend? The examples of industrialism you provided had nothing to do with the Biblical Era. Therefore, none of them can count for anything. As such, you have not proved that anything useful came out of this time period. It seems to me, after my several years of anthropological research, that this time period was rather boring. There was not much industrialism, or commercialization.
So why would they write the respective books of the Bible? It seems obvious to me that they could have easily been used as a tool for mass crowd control. What better way to calm an unruly civilization than to tell them that if they did not behave, they were going to burn in hell for eternity?
Farewell!
Edit: Someone pointed out that Pi was referenced in the Bible. This is a disingenuous statement. The formula given for pi in the Bible is inaccurate. Depending on interpretations, it may give either a value of 3, or 3.14150943396… Either way, it is incorrect. This is especially sad given that they had 600 years to become more accurate after the Babylonians predicted it to be 3.125.
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Everyone thought the earth was the centre of things until Copernicus and Galileo, so unless they were extraordinary astronomers (they weren’t) and kept it secret the Hebrews thought that too.
As for the flat earth Biblical view, see the link below.
Barbarians can eat meat and drink wine too, it doesn’t mean vegetarian teetotaller. It meant in those days foreigner, and has come to mean now uncouth or uncivilised (the Greeks thought that drinking unwatered wine was a barbarian manner), personally I don’t think the ancient Hebrews were uncivilised.
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http://www.theskepticalreview.com/tsrmag/1flat90.html
They believed in talking snakes, that rabbits chew cud, that gods and demons and angels exist, among other silly things.
In any event, the point isn’t that they were stupid, but that they were ignorant about how things really work. Although they realized, by observation, that lack of cleanliness could cause illness, they didn’t know about microbes, so attributed such things to gods or demons. We know better today. At least, most of us do.
No, I don’t eat animals. Yes, I can grow plants. I don’t drink wine, so I have no interest in making it.
I don’t believe it’s okay to own slaves, or stone a person to death for picking up sticks on the "sabbath," or stone a kid to death for talking back, or make a rape victim marry the rapist, etc. Morality evolved right along with us or we’d still be doing the barbaric things they did back then.
The fact that people wrote about things that they believed doesn’t mean that they were right. To believe in something by faith — belief without evidence and/or despite evidence to the contrary — is irrational and intellectually dishonest.
There is *no* evidence for a historical Jesus. None.
Nothing real requires faith.
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The ancient Hebrews had a conception of the Earth that was a flat disc under a dome, the disc stood on pillars. This is not even a point of contention and is well known by all historians. The verse that suggest seeing all four corners of the Earth indicates this as well as others that talk of the dome of the heavens.
Early man did think that the Earth was the center. Why do you think the catholic Church imprisoned or burned at the stake the likes of Giordano Bruno and Galileo for suggesting otherwise?
Ancient people were as smart as us, they were simply more superstitious and a whole lot more ignorant. Look at the striped sticks idea in the Bible, if you breed goats in front of striped sticks you will get striped goats.
I’m not sure what it is you’re claiming, but the Bible writers came from a much more primitive and ignorant society. Most of their teachings are simply no longer applicable in this modern era.
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WOW!.
So many good good points, and I like how you put them in groups so it was easy to read them.
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